Monday, February 18, 2013

Unpopular Warriors Trade Deadline Opinion Alert

Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry are two of the biggest reasons for the Warriors success but there may be only one way for them to help in the future. Whether it be this week or the end of the season saying goodbye to these guys will be tough.
By Justin Taylor

Last week when I wrote about trading Klay Thompson the feedback came fast and furious. I would venture to say that most of the people who were calling me names and insulting my intelligence didn’t actually read the article. They probably saw the headline or the subhead and decided that Trapped in Golden State is a waste of time. I’m not saying they’re wrong but if they had read the piece they’d know that it was mostly an exercise in why you keep Klay and continue to let him grow in Oakland. With that being said, I can’t imagine what I’ll be called when I say that the Warriors should be looking long and hard at moving Carl Landry and Jarrett Jack at the trade deadline.

I'm not advocating that a trade be made just for the sake of making a trade but the questions are begging to be asked. What is more important right now, this year or the next four years? Are we done acquiring assets to build a contender because we’ve played one solid half season of basketball? Are we better off limiting future flexibility by paying market price for the dynamic bench duo at seasons end, letting them walk for no compensation or trying to leverage them into more than just a one year rental? I may be laughed off the internet and banned from attending any more games this season for suggesting it but I’m more concerned with surrounding Stephen Curry, Andrew Bogut, David Lee, Harrison Barnes and Klay Thompson with pieces that can grow with them.

Trading Dorrell Wright for Jarrett Jack was a genius move by Bob Myers for more than one reason. Of course Jack is just a better, tougher player on his worst day but it also maintained financial flexibility because he was entering the final year of his contract. Signing Landry for next to nothing ($4 million) was just another feather in the young GM's cap. Now that both of them will be entering the summer as unrestricted free agents they won't be staying at the numbers they played for this year and the Warriors will be too close to the cap to give them raises, whether they deserve them or not. Some desperate team out there will give Jack at least $6 or $ 7million a year after making $5 million this year and Landry will get close to the same if not more.

Some might write this proposal off as a panicking fan coming off a five game losing streak with a full week until the next game is played. That might be partly true because waiting seven days for a chance to break this losing streak is killing me but that’s not why I’m suggesting we make a deal before the February 21st deadline. I think the Warriors are building something special right now. That doesn’t mean I ever had high expectations for this year. In fact, they’ve already exceeded my expectations considering Andrew Bogut hasn’t been even a small part of their success. The problem comes to be that the team doesn't have any draft picks to be used in a trade so it limits what they can get in return and how they can add to the roster in the offseason; more so on the trade front because the upcoming draft is already being called one of the worst we've seen in years and that was before one of the top picks, Nerlens Noel, tore his ACL.

The main reason for making a trade is the biggest reason the Warriors have been so successful this season. The teams greatest advantage over the opposition has been it’s bench and that’s not going to be the case next year unless Landry and Jack are paid starters money to continue anchoring the second unit. If and when they leave for nothing in free agency it's going to leave a gaping hole that Charles Jenkins, Kent Bazemore, Draymond Green and Festus Ezeli just aren’t ready to fill. All I'm saying is that the thought needs to be entertained because if they leave and we strike out trying to find a cheap replacement in free agency Jeremy Tyler will be getting his minutes in Oakland instead of Santa Cruz next season. 

As much as both of these guys have meant to the team moving them won’t have nearly the impact that trading Monta for and injured Andrew Bogut had last year. First of all, I can only assume that whomever they get in return would be healthy enough to contribute this year. This wouldn’t be kick starting a tank-a-thon like we saw last year. If Myers pulled off a deal that brought back a guy that could be another real building block Lacob won’t have to worry about getting booed again either. There’s also the fact that they wouldn’t be getting rid of their first, second or even third best active player and for all the love these two have gotten from Warriors fans it’s not as if any of them have gone out and bought their jerseys.

The chemistry will take a hit in the short term but they’d still be very likely candidates to make the playoffs this season. They’d also be getting a jumpstart in meshing before the offseason as opposed to getting to know whatever ever free agents Bob Myers brings in on the cheap in July or August. Personally, I don’t think it would be such a bad thing for our younger guys to be forced into key roles in critical situations either. Getting those types of reps now will only help when this roster can be considered a true contender. If Jack is our best option to handle the ball at the end of every game how does that help Curry get experience running the team and get his own shot when the pressure is at its boiling point?

Myers has already said that he won’t blow up this team before he gets a chance to see what it looks like as he envisioned it before the season. Does anyone think either guy I’m talking about was a part of that vision past this season? What’s the harm in getting something for them on their way out the door? If Carl Landry and Jarrett Jack are absolutely critical for you to win games and make the playoffs; when they’re being spotted a couple games since they currently sit in the 6th spot in the Western Conference; then there is still plenty of work to be done anyways. The only thing I know for sure is that they have more value as trade chips now than they will if they’re getting paid $7-8 million per over the next three years. At that point you will be stuck with them whether they continue to perform as they have been or not.

If the Warriors were to make such a preemptive strike with an eye on the next three seasons as opposed to focusing solely on what is possible this May they can add to the core before Biedrins and Jefferson become pseudo assets as expiring contracts. With that type of strategy in mind I’ll breakout the trustee trade machine to see what the roster could look like in a year or two.

1) Phoenix Suns: Marcin Gortat for Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry

Perfect trade for the biggest cheapskate owner in the league Robert Sarver. This trade would save him almost $8 million next year! For the Warriors Gortat would be a huge asset off the bench and in a trade as an expiring contract next season. It probably wouldn't go down like this but the framework of this trade could work many different ways with the main players remaining the same. Shit, Bob Myers might even be able to trade him back to Sarver the following year so he can take another contract off the books!

2) Los Angeles Clippers: Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler for Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry

Everyone knows that Bledsoe is a goner because #FlopCity won't be able to pay him once they max out Chris Paul for the next five years so somebody has to swoop in on that. Caron Butler isn't worth $8 million a year but I think that's the only advantage we have in making this deal. He's still better than Richard Jefferson and his deal comes off the books at the same time so he might be a decent trade chip next year at the deadline.

3) Denver Nuggets: Andre Igoudala and Andre Miller for Jarrett Jack, Carl Landry and Andris Biedrins

Denver is a very money conscious franchise and even with Andris Biedrins involved it would save them money. It’s just a thought. I didn’t like the Monta/AI trade speculation or the rumors for the 7th pick in the past but if I could get him for a couple of guys who are leaving anyway? Sign me up.

4) Dallas Mavericks: OJ Mayo, Chris Kaman and Jared Cunningham for Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry

OJ Mayo could replace pretty much everything Jarrett Jack does except his toughness. People forget he’s only 25 so he’d be entering his prime as most of our guys are still coming into their own.

5) Philidelphia 76ers: Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry

Turner and Hawes are both young guys who would figure to add to the young core and give us the a high IQ eight man rotation that would be scary in two years and would continue to get better for the next five. Doubt the Sixers agree to that but I’d throw it at the wall and see if it sticks anyways.

6) Toronto Raptors: Jonas Valanciunas and Kyle Lowry for Carl Landry, Jarrett Jack and Jeremy Tyler

I’m a Kyle Lowry fan and he could duplicate a lot of what Jack brings off the bench. I don’t know much about Valana…whatever his name is. He might be a project, I don’t know. I’ve heard the Raptors are high on him so it might need to be another name next to Lowry’s.

Here's a couple more that can be filed under the "what are you smoking?" category...

7) Sacramento Kings: DeMarcus Cousins, Jason Thompson, Marcus Thorton and Tyler Honeycutt for Jarrett Jack, Carl Landry and David Lee

I don’t know why the Kings would do this unless they’re faced with some Chris Webber/Nellie type implosion and are dumb enough to send Cousins away instead of perennial interim coach Keith Smart. I just know that a Boogie/Bogut front line would scare every team in the league except Memphis. Put that with our shooters and everybody better watch their asses. The peripheral pieces of this trade are also better fits for our roster than theirs. High risk / High reward / Super low probability to be sure.

8) Minnesota Timberwolves: Kevin Love, Derrick Williams and Brandon Roy for David Lee, Carl Landry, Jarrett Jack

Everybody knows that Kevin Love is leaving Minny first chance he gets and the only reason this deal would even be considered is because David Lee can’t go anywhere. I don’t even care that Love may not play much for the rest of the season. All I know is that when you put him with Curry and Thompson it might make us the best three point shooting team in the history of the league. I know I’d do this deal in a heartbeat even if it meant sacrificing the rest of this season. We’d be right there with OKC as favorite to come out of the West starting next year.

If you’ve spent any time on the ESPN Trade Machine putting together trades that are realistic (as opposed to most of mine) please post them here or send them to me on Twitter or Facebook. Like it or rip it, all feedback from Warriors fans is appreciated.


  1. The only problem with the trade suggestions is that NONE of the other teams pulls the trigger on the deals you proposed. Each and every one of those deals involves Myers taking the other team's GM out for drinks and slipping drugs into the other GM's alcohol when he's not looking.

    1. I agree. These are all examples of trades that work for both teams financially. The homer in me didn't include Klay in trades that would probably require his inclusion. Even if the trades are shit I think the premise is valid. I'm sure most people scrolled right past the top part because fake trades are more entertaining than a fan's opinion usually.

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  2. The problem with the premise is that Jack and Landry have no real trade value. Jack is a backup point on any team in the league. Landry is a journeyman having a great year. No team in the NBA is going to give up anything of value for players like that. The best the Dubs could hope for is that a team like Utah, knowing it is going to lose Mo Williams, looks to land a guy like Jack who would be easier to re-sign.

    What the Dubs really need is a blockbuster.

    BTW, I am the same person who made the original comment.

    1. Thanks for the comments Buddy.

      I know what you're saying but any asset that can be held over next year will help. Whether its just to round out the bench or somebody that van be included in a blockbuster. I think they're worth enough to get someone better than what they'll be able to afford on the open market.

      Either way, I do hope that Myers has at least surveyed the landscape but he has my confidence to do whats best in a trade or in free agency. That is a weird feeling for someone who has been following this team for